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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 155 - Posted 30 Aug 2010 2:36:46 UTC
Has anyone tested the PS3 app out there? If so, how well does it work, and on what BOINC version are you running it? I have the old PS3Grid/GPUGrid BOINC version (which also works on Yoyo) which breaks up a single WU to run on the 6 SPEs. There is also the PrimeGrid BOINC version, which runs six WUs at a time, one on each of the SPEs. Anyone have a clue as to which version would be best? Or is there a newer BOINC version compiled for the PS3 that I am unaware of?
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Fabio Campos Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Feb 3 10 Posts: 58 Credit: 10,767 RAC: 11	Message 156 - Posted 30 Aug 2010 6:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 155. Last modified: 30 Aug 2010 6:43:57 UTC
Hi Maxwell, check this http://www.primaboinca.com/howto.php I've got 4 Playstation and a IBM BladeCenter running since 17.07.2010 ... Thx for crunching ;-)
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 175 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 20:13:54 UTC - in response to Message 156.
I got around to circling back to this issue, and I'm seeing some weird things. I've got a PS3 running YDL6.1, and the credits being granted do not seem right. The WUs are running for over five minutes (5:10 to 5:30), which shows up accurately under the Run Time, but credits are being granted based on CPU time, which is grossly underestimated on a PS3. http://www.primaboinca.com/workunit.php?wuid=288316 In that WU, I claimed (and was granted) 0.02 credits for a WU that crunched for over 5 minutes. Being optimistic, 12 WUs/hr * 24 hrs/day * 0.02 credits/WU = 5.76 credits/day. In contrast, Yoyo gets about 1500 credits/day, PrimeGrid got 3500 credits/day, and PS3Grid got 5000 credits/day. I would like to use my PS3s to crunch this project, but I'd prefer to leave them off for fewer than 6 credits per day...
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zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 18 Credit: 2,038,916 RAC: 8,871	Message 178 - Posted 28 Sep 2010 3:58:38 UTC
FWIW, all projects that have PS3 apps have had to create custom credit awarding methods. BOINC does not know how to deal with their CPU structure. Similar problem with GPUs. So I suggest that the admin look at the credits awarded for a typical WU run by a CPU, and make that fixed credits for any task returned by a PS3. Otherwise the PS3 volunteer is going to quit participating. ____________ Dublin, CA Team SETI.USA
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 180 - Posted 29 Sep 2010 5:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 178.
FWIW, all projects that have PS3 apps have had to create custom credit awarding methods. BOINC does not know how to deal with their CPU structure. Similar problem with GPUs. So I suggest that the admin look at the credits awarded for a typical WU run by a CPU, and make that fixed credits for any task returned by a PS3. Otherwise the PS3 volunteer is going to quit participating. Good info - thank you, zombie67. To drive this point home: Yoyo = 1500 credits/day. Primaboinca = 6 credits/day. For 250x the credit, I'm going to stick with Yoyo. I would LOVE to crunch Primaboinca on the PS3, but can't justify keeping the PS3s on for 6 credits/day. yoyo (from Rechenkraft.net - sp?) and the folks at PrimeGrid (specifically, the old AP26 project), may be able to offer advice on a PS3 BOINC app. Both are pretty active in the BOINC community and good people. ;-) The app here works well; it's just the granted credits that are the problem...
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 201 - Posted 21 Oct 2010 22:59:41 UTC
Quick bump: Any updates on fixing the credit with crunching on a PS3?
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blades@hs-rm Send message Joined: Jul 21 10 Posts: 1 Credit: 62 RAC: 0	Message 202 - Posted 22 Oct 2010 6:48:56 UTC - in response to Message 201.
Hi Maxwell, I'm working on that ... best regards
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 203 - Posted 23 Oct 2010 1:45:39 UTC - in response to Message 202.
Great to hear, Blades. Thank you! Please do keep us posted...
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 210 - Posted 14 Nov 2010 3:24:22 UTC
It's been a few weeks, so I wanted to check back in. I'm anxious to hear about the progress on fixing the credit situation for the PS3 app...
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 224 - Posted 12 Jan 2011 22:52:44 UTC - in response to Message 210.
It's been a few weeks, so I wanted to check back in. I'm anxious to hear about the progress on fixing the credit situation for the PS3 app... Bump...
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Maxwell [MM] Send message Joined: Jul 24 10 Posts: 13 Credit: 12,852,727 RAC: 0	Message 236 - Posted 14 Feb 2011 3:48:57 UTC
Any news about this? I'd love to use the PS3 to crunch this project, but would like the credit issue solved first... Thank you.
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Fabio Campos Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: Feb 3 10 Posts: 58 Credit: 10,767 RAC: 11	Message 237 - Posted 14 Feb 2011 8:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 236.
Hi Maxwell, give us 2 more weeks ... Thank you.
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STE\/E Send message Joined: Jul 22 10 Posts: 26 Credit: 36,210,385 RAC: 17,254	Message 285 - Posted 15 Apr 2011 9:27:03 UTC - in response to Message 237.
Hi, my PS3 was running 6 Wu's @ a time then for some reason dropped to only 3 Wu's @ a time although they seem to be running twice as fast now running only 3. Hard to tell since I can't run 6 now ...
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Has anyone tested the PS3 app out there? If so, how well does it work, and on what BOINC version are you running it?

I have the old PS3Grid/GPUGrid BOINC version (which also works on Yoyo) which breaks up a single WU to run on the 6 SPEs. There is also the PrimeGrid BOINC version, which runs six WUs at a time, one on each of the SPEs. Anyone have a clue as to which version would be best?

Or is there a newer BOINC version compiled for the PS3 that I am unaware of?

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Hi Maxwell,

check this http://www.primaboinca.com/howto.php

I've got 4 Playstation and a IBM BladeCenter running since 17.07.2010 ...

Thx for crunching ;-)

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I got around to circling back to this issue, and I'm seeing some weird things.

I've got a PS3 running YDL6.1, and the credits being granted do not seem right. The WUs are running for over five minutes (5:10 to 5:30), which shows up accurately under the Run Time, but credits are being granted based on CPU time, which is grossly underestimated on a PS3.

http://www.primaboinca.com/workunit.php?wuid=288316

In that WU, I claimed (and was granted) 0.02 credits for a WU that crunched for over 5 minutes. Being optimistic, 12 WUs/hr * 24 hrs/day * 0.02 credits/WU = 5.76 credits/day. In contrast, Yoyo gets about 1500 credits/day, PrimeGrid got 3500 credits/day, and PS3Grid got 5000 credits/day.

I would like to use my PS3s to crunch this project, but I'd prefer to leave them off for fewer than 6 credits per day...

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FWIW, all projects that have PS3 apps have had to create custom credit awarding methods. BOINC does not know how to deal with their CPU structure. Similar problem with GPUs.

So I suggest that the admin look at the credits awarded for a typical WU run by a CPU, and make that fixed credits for any task returned by a PS3. Otherwise the PS3 volunteer is going to quit participating.
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FWIW, all projects that have PS3 apps have had to create custom credit awarding methods. BOINC does not know how to deal with their CPU structure. Similar problem with GPUs.

So I suggest that the admin look at the credits awarded for a typical WU run by a CPU, and make that fixed credits for any task returned by a PS3. Otherwise the PS3 volunteer is going to quit participating.

Good info - thank you, zombie67.

To drive this point home: Yoyo = 1500 credits/day. Primaboinca = 6 credits/day. For 250x the credit, I'm going to stick with Yoyo. I would LOVE to crunch Primaboinca on the PS3, but can't justify keeping the PS3s on for 6 credits/day.

yoyo (from Rechenkraft.net - sp?) and the folks at PrimeGrid (specifically, the old AP26 project), may be able to offer advice on a PS3 BOINC app. Both are pretty active in the BOINC community and good people. ;-)

The app here works well; it's just the granted credits that are the problem...

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Quick bump: Any updates on fixing the credit with crunching on a PS3?

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Hi Maxwell,

I'm working on that ...

best regards

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Great to hear, Blades. Thank you! Please do keep us posted...

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It's been a few weeks, so I wanted to check back in. I'm anxious to hear about the progress on fixing the credit situation for the PS3 app...

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It's been a few weeks, so I wanted to check back in. I'm anxious to hear about the progress on fixing the credit situation for the PS3 app...

Bump...

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Any news about this? I'd love to use the PS3 to crunch this project, but would like the credit issue solved first...

Thank you.

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Hi Maxwell,

give us 2 more weeks ...

Thank you.

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Hi, my PS3 was running 6 Wu's @ a time then for some reason dropped to only 3 Wu's @ a time although they seem to be running twice as fast now running only 3. Hard to tell since I can't run 6 now ...

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