11) Message boards : Number crunching : Short Deadline? (Message 109)
Posted 2688 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Thanks!
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Poor Credits (Message 105)
Posted 2688 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Is that parity set before or after releasing optimized apps? 64 bit apps? GPU apps? Non-CPU apps? And if after, is that after the first optimized version, or the 7th? It's just not possible.

The best that can be done is have parity be an average of the current state of optimized / 64 bit / ... versions of each application. Not perfect, but it is better than removing ALL meaning from credits as those that would have the projects set credits to be whatever they feel like would do.

What I am getting from some people is that since perfect is impossible, we should just do away with credits meaning anything at all. In that case, we should just get rid of credits in my opinion.

You are suggesting reducing credits every time production increases because (for example) someone puts in the hard work to improve the app? Wow. That would drive people away, and remove any incentive to improve apps. What a horrible scenario.

For a while, extra credit is granted to the group that has the optimized application - until the optimized application is on all machines attached to the project.


You assume the opt apps will run on all machines. That is rarely true. 32 bit machines can't run 64 bit, for example. So where is the incentive to make a 64 bit app that crunches twice as fast, if the credits awarded are just going to be reduced down to achieve parity with the 32 bit apps? You are removing any incentive to improve productivity.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Poor Credits (Message 97)
Posted 2689 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Is that parity set before or after releasing optimized apps? 64 bit apps? GPU apps? Non-CPU apps? And if after, is that after the first optimized version, or the 7th? It's just not possible.

The best that can be done is have parity be an average of the current state of optimized / 64 bit / ... versions of each application. Not perfect, but it is better than removing ALL meaning from credits as those that would have the projects set credits to be whatever they feel like would do.

What I am getting from some people is that since perfect is impossible, we should just do away with credits meaning anything at all. In that case, we should just get rid of credits in my opinion.

You are suggesting reducing credits every time production increases because (for example) someone puts in the hard work to improve the app? Wow. That would drive people away, and remove any incentive to improve apps. What a horrible scenario.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Poor Credits (Message 95)
Posted 2689 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Is that parity set before or after releasing optimized apps? 64 bit apps? GPU apps? Non-CPU apps? And if after, is that after the first optimized version, or the 7th? It's just not possible.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Poor Credits (Message 81)
Posted 2690 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Me flying by flapping my arms really hard is also a worthy goal. It's also something I really, really want to work. But guess what? It's just not possible.

Cross project parity is completely impossible. Full stop. Nicolas has explained this (and why) over and over. Any attempt at it, is a waste of time and effort.

Cross project comparisons should not be via credits. Rather they should be compared by a method such as mega milestones or fomula boinc.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Survey (Message 59)
Posted 2693 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
I would really appreciate if you waste approximately 1 minute of your time to answer 5 questions ... ;-)

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XWFYTH6

Thank you in advance


Just making it clickable.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Exporting Stats (Message 4)
Posted 2697 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Thanks!
18) Message boards : Cafe : Yea! Message boards turned on! (Message 3)
Posted 2697 days ago by zombie67 [MM]
Awesome!


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